what pump to use - Certified SoftWash Roof Cleaning

Josh Scavetta · SoftWash Systems Certified Applicator

what pump to use

AC Lockyer · Administrator

YUP! 3/4 horse $150.00 pool and spa pump. That will do ya. Put a clean water rinse port in the intake end with a valve and a out let with a valve on the other. Then you can completely rinse out the pump head daily.

AC

Danny Cronauer · SoftWash Systems Certified

Great Idea, I am having the same problem. Thank you soft wash community.

Josh Scavetta · SoftWash Systems Certified Applicator

now to do that i would have to gravity feed the pump right. I do have bulkheads on the bottom of the tank put i have them turned off and capped for safety. The pump i have now sucks from the top of the tank. Maybe ill just set it up to get gravity fed and use the pool pump. Let me know if im explaining it right

Laurie Benjamin · Lead Tech Certified

I am trying to figure out something here...I hear your all saying that the bleach wash would not damage roofs and buildings...but you need to wash the pumps?....Can someone explain that to me. i

AC Lockyer · Administrator

Firstly Bleach Wash is a product sold by SoftWash Systems that is a finishing soap that neutralizes bleach and washes it away.

Yes sodium hypochlorite (bleach) is corrosive and things left to soak in it for days on end will possibly be damaged by the bleach. Things treated topically with bleach cleaning solutions are not as suseptable to damage from the corrosiveness of the bleach. Things that come into long term exposure to bleach like a pumps head need to be rinsed daily to extend the surface life.

Hope this helps,

AC

Danny Cronauer · SoftWash Systems Certified

Also on the roofs the SH less concentrated. When running through a transfer pump its 12-15% sodium Hypocholorite rather than on a surface to be cleaned which can be from 1-4%.

Ryan Freidline · SoftWash Systems Certified Applicator

Is this the same pump you would look to for rinsing or is the psi too low?

AC Lockyer · Administrator

Ryan,

That pool pump has no head pressure.

AC

Ryan Freidline · SoftWash Systems Certified Applicator

AC Lockyer wrote:
Ryan,

That pool pump has no head pressure.

AC

yeah...I didn't think it did....

Ryan Freidline · SoftWash Systems Certified Applicator

this pump is $150 through Amazon

http://www.amazon.com/Hayward-SP1580X15-Power-Flo-2-Horsepower-Above-Ground/dp/B00268B774/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top

-- Edited by Ryan on Monday 7th of May 2012 10:07:59 PM

Ryan Freidline · SoftWash Systems Certified Applicator

this pump is 1.5 HP, and they have another @ 1HP. Are these what we're talking about for transferring chem?

Josh Scavetta · SoftWash Systems Certified Applicator

i called a company and the cheapest price i could find for a pool pump like that one was like $400. he also said you are going to have to run a lot of water through the pump because you have to flush out the leaf ketch basin. The guy said most were self priming. i dont know what to do. Im going thought like 500 gal every too weeks so i just might buy some tanks much bigger. but im running the show out of home so i cant get a tanker truck in my back yard. you guys have any ideas

Josh Scavetta · SoftWash Systems Certified Applicator

wow thats not bad. i might have to give it a try

AC Lockyer · Administrator

The one with the leaf basket is exactly what we used. The leaf strainer screws off.

AC.

Laurie Benjamin · Lead Tech Certified

HHas anyone tried the dual pump....a bit dissapointed with the height I am getting........do I have to combine them for three story heights?

AC Lockyer · Administrator

All Aspects Ltd wrote:
HHas anyone tried the dual pump....a bit dissapointed with the height I am getting........do I have to combine them for three story heights?

Laurie, 35 feet is a good working height. What tip are you using a 20 or 30????

Even with my 7 gpm 80 psi pumps we get 35' most of the time at 45 psi going to reel and the rest back to the tank. When we need more height we throttle the system to send 70 psi to the reel and get between 50 and 60 feet depending on wind.

AC

Laurie Benjamin · Lead Tech Certified

I have rotated both of them.....maybe I just expected it to go highter...

Doug Rucker · UAMCC Officer

All Aspects Ltd wrote:
HHas anyone tried the dual pump....a bit dissapointed with the height I am getting........do I have to combine them for three story heights?

Been using for about 2 years. Combining will get you more volume, almost 9 GPM, not more height.

AC Lockyer · Administrator

Laurie,

Also remember that is 35 feet from the tip. Try raising the tip. See Chris with Palmetto's post on using extension poles.

AC

Doug Rucker · UAMCC Officer

AC Lockyer wrote:
Laurie,

Also remember that is 35 feet from the tip. Try raising the tip. See Chris with Palmetto's post on using extension poles.

AC

Good point. I have also found that the angle of the dangle makes a difference.

AC Lockyer · Administrator

Doug Rucker wrote:
AC Lockyer wrote:
Laurie,

Also remember that is 35 feet from the tip. Try raising the tip. See Chris with Palmetto's post on using extension poles.

AC
Good point. I have also found that the angle of the dangle makes a difference.

The angle of the dangle......Im using that!

John Smith · Lead Tech Certified

Would a sump pump work for transfering ? I dont know if florida residents use them but they are usually in basements to pump out rain water or when the water table raises due to rain and floods basements. They plug into the wall and I would actually submerge it down in the tank. flow is 29 GPM

AC Lockyer · Administrator

magikman92 wrote:
Would a sump pump work for transfering ? I dont know if florida residents use them but they are usually in basements to pump out rain water or when the water table raises due to rain and floods basements. They plug into the wall and I would actually submerge it down in the tank. flow is 29 GPM

NO. The SH will eat it alive. Use a small pool or spa pump. AC

Peter Blau · Sophmore Member

AC Lockyer wrote:
All Aspects Ltd wrote:
HHas anyone tried the dual pump....a bit dissapointed with the height I am getting........do I have to combine them for three story heights?
Laurie, 35 feet is a good working height. What tip are you using a 20 or 30????
Even with my 7 gpm 80 psi pumps we get 35' most of the time at 45 psi going to reel and the rest back to the tank. When we need more height we throttle the system to send 70 psi to the reel and get between 50 and 60 feet depending on wind.
AC

throttle the system? what is this and how?

AC Lockyer · Administrator

CEC wrote:
AC Lockyer wrote:
All Aspects Ltd wrote:
HHas anyone tried the dual pump....a bit dissapointed with the height I am getting........do I have to combine them for three story heights?
Laurie, 35 feet is a good working height. What tip are you using a 20 or 30????
Even with my 7 gpm 80 psi pumps we get 35' most of the time at 45 psi going to reel and the rest back to the tank. When we need more height we throttle the system to send 70 psi to the reel and get between 50 and 60 feet depending on wind.
AC
throttle the system? what is this and how?

The Generation II SoftWash Systems come with a Throttle Valve that can be adjusted and locked down to precicely send some of the out flow of your pump to both your hose reel as well as back to your mix tank. You can actually set it to run 70 psi and 7 gpm back to your tank when your wand is closed and then when the wand is open it diverts 45psi and about 3.5 gpm to your hose reel while simultaneously also agitating your tank with the remainer.

We will have retro fit kits at Softwashapolooza at cost for those who have systems that are less than 6 months old and at a show special for those who have systems over 6 months old that want to retro fit their Generation I SWS system.

AC