Making Biodiesel

Mark Fermoyle · Lead Tech Certified

Staging pre-mixed CH??

Chris Madden · Lead Tech Certified

Mark,

I believe I have the answer to your 3% premixed 50 gal drum of solution.

100gal. of water mixed with 100oz of CH will give you a 1% solution.

So to get your 3% solution in 100gal. you up your CH to 300oz.

100gal. water + 300oz. of CH = 3% solution.

50gal. water + 150oz. of CH = 3% solution.

My question to you is:

Are you trying to have a 55gal drum filled with 50gal. of 3% ready to spray solution?

or are you looking to have a 55gal drum filled with a 10% solution (just like buying

10% SH) so you can add to water in your mix tank on your rig?

If you are looking for the latter...... then the following will apply:

100gal. water + 1000oz. of CH = 10% solution

50gal. water + 500oz. of CH = 10% solution.

I am taking these numbers by what AC stated in this thread:

http://softwashsystems.activeboard.com/t46649680/my-mixology-calculation/

"Sure in a 100 gallon tank of water every 100 ounces of powder CH bleach will make a 1% solution.

AC"

Hope this helps. Stay safe out there Mark

Chris

Mark Fermoyle · Lead Tech Certified

Hey Chris,

Thanks for the info. I was thinking of keeping it mixed on hand like the SH. It would only save me about $25 as opposed to having a 50gal drum of SH delivered to the house. However, as I understand the module, the CH will be more "plant-friendly". That $25 could purchase "a lot" of peace of mind!!

I think I'd just have to draw it from the top of the barrel and not suck up the water hardeners from the bottom.

Do you, or does anyone else out there know how the shelf-life of CH is compared to SH?

THANKS AGAIN CHRIS!!

AC Lockyer · Administrator

Mark,

Id make a tank that has a mix pump mounted to the top that could run a cycle and shut off over night. A cylinder tank would be best with a cone in the bottom. You can buy these online with stands. In the bottom of the cone place a valve for bleeding off the sludge. This is VERY similar the the technique used in home desile fuel stills that you can find online. They have a valve at the bottom to drain off the heavier byproducts after the tank has stratified and the particulates settle to the bottom. I bet this would work well for you.

Thanks Chris for jumping in on the rest of this while I was on break.

AC

Chris Madden · Lead Tech Certified

GM Services wrote:
How does he make his own diesel Chris?

We pay $7.93 for the equivalent of a US gallon or roughly 1.60 euros a liter if my maths are correct. Would be nice to make it at $0.75 a gallon.

Michael,

I could start a whole new forum with the info on Making your own Biodiesel.

But I will just leave some links here for folks to start their search into this awesome

process.

Making Biodiesel

Biodiesel

Biodiesel Production: How To Make It & Test It - Graydon Blair - CBC 2011

You can buy an already to run unit to make Biodiesel, or make your own "Still"

for about $800 or less.

Chris

-- Edited by Chris Madden on Thursday 27th of December 2012 04:43:30 PM

Chris Madden · Lead Tech Certified

Here is one brand of tank AC was speaking of:

Snyder Industries Batch Mixing Tank with Stand — 65 Gallon

http://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_200328445_200328445

Here is a smaller version:

Snyder Industries Batch Mixing Tank with Stand — 17 Gallon

http://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_200328441_200328441

There are other companies and brands out there as well.

Just as AC said these are typically used in the Making of Diesel to run in a diesel engine.

I helped a friend of mine build a Diesel still. He makes his own fuel for his truck at a current

cost of .75 cents per gallon. biggrin biggrin biggrin biggrin

Hope this helps.

Michael Hickey · Junior Member

How does he make his own diesel Chris?

We pay $7.93 for the equivalent of a US gallon or roughly 1.60 euros a liter if my maths are correct. Would be nice to make it at $0.75 a gallon.

Mark Fermoyle · Lead Tech Certified

Chris,

So, would 1250 ounces of CH powder to 100 gallons of water yield a 12.5% solution?

Mark

Chris Madden · Lead Tech Certified

Let Us Spray wrote:
Chris,

So, would 1250 ounces of CH powder to 100 gallons of water yield a 12.5% solution?

Mark

Hey Mark,

Yes your correct. 1250oz of CH to 100 gal of water will give you 12.5% solution.

100 gal water + 1250 oz of CH = 12.5% solution

50 gal water + 625 oz of CH = 12.5% solution

Hope this helps. Have a great day!!!

Chris

Mark Fermoyle · Lead Tech Certified

Cool beans,

That's what I thought, just wanted another opinion. I usually get 12.5% SH here, but may make 10% CH and give it the "Fresh & Clear" kicker. I'm excited about less plant damage worries with CH!

Do you know how to get rid of the possible residual film people have spoken of regarding CH?

Mark

Slava Borisevich · Freshmen Member

This video demonstrates the features of the OSR Auto-Mixing pump.

John Aloisio · SoftWash Systems 5-Star Professional

The metal sump pump would get chewed up in no time by the chems.

AC Lockyer · Administrator

Yes John, I believe they are mixing a water based floor sealer in these videos. I see nothing there that would last long in our environment. Good idea though.

AC

John Aloisio · SoftWash Systems 5-Star Professional

I think it's odor and stain remover for carpet cleaning, that is most likely water based like you said.

Vic Irish · SoftWash Systems Certified Applicator

AC Lockyer wrote:
Yes John, I believe they are mixing a water based floor sealer in these videos. I see nothing there that would last long in our environment. Good idea though.

AC

I like the portability of that garbage dumpster on wheels.

Take a small one like this - http://www.amazon.com/Rubbermaid-Commercial-FG9W2700GRAY-50-Gallon-Rectangular/dp/B0007845JC/ref=sr_1_1?s=office-products&ie=UTF8&qid=1390066130&sr=1-1&keywords=trash+dumpster, add a portable pump and make CH on site. Feasible or impractical? Both? LOL

John Smith · Lead Tech Certified

I mix mine in a 55 gallon plastic drum, on site. It takes more time but I feed plants and not kill them. Makes for good sleep.

AC Lockyer · Administrator

I miss Chris Madden :(

AC

Brandon Vaughn · SoftWash Systems Pro Staff

AC Lockyer wrote:
I miss Chris Madden :(

AC

What happened to him? I've read all his posts - the guy sounds like a super smart dude.

Vic Irish · SoftWash Systems Certified Applicator

Chris Madden wrote:
Let Us Spray wrote:
Chris,

So, would 1250 ounces of CH powder to 100 gallons of water yield a 12.5% solution?

Mark
Hey Mark,

Yes your correct. 1250oz of CH to 100 gal of water will give you 12.5% solution.
100 gal water + 1250 oz of CH = 12.5% solution
50 gal water + 625 oz of CH = 12.5% solution

Hope this helps. Have a great day!!!

Chris

Thank you, Chris.

If there are 16 oz in a pound, then 1,250 oz = 78.125 pounds of CH per 100 gallons.

That will be a lot of stirring, no? Little more than 3 - 25 lb. buckets, or the better part of a 100 lb. keg.

We are not using anything stronger than 5% solution, so I don't know why I just posted this.

I can't delete, so please just ignore this :)

vic

-- Edited by Vic Irish on Monday 20th of January 2014 01:07:27 PM

John Smith · Lead Tech Certified

omg I'd go broke. why would you want it that strong? 3% ch works great

Matt Jennemann · Junior Member

I think what they are getting at is you will have the same 12.5% solution mix as commercial sh. Mix, let settle and you get your ch mix in liquid form just like your sh but w/o the plant damage and residue if don't suck it up from the bottom. Pretty good idea if you ask me. Just make sure you don't go past your 119 gallon limit on a long day. Good thinkin guy's keep it coming!

John Smith · Lead Tech Certified

I'll stick with 3% , it works well