Where can I find bleach? - Certified SoftWash Roof Cleaning

AC Lockyer · Administrator

RE: Where can I find bleach?

Laurie Benjamin · Lead Tech Certified

I found this today, the guy in the store said its imported form US. there is no exact % .. the msds says between 5%-10%.. Any advice..?

AC Lockyer · Administrator

Yes if you use it double the bleach ratios because the clorox will be weak.

AC

Rick · Freshmen Member

IM new But can't you just use Bleach from the super market? some of that goes for $1-2 on sale even cheaper sometimes.

AC Lockyer · Administrator

Rick wrote:
IM new But can't you just use Bleach from the super market? some of that goes for $1-2 on sale even cheaper sometimes.

Bleach from super mkt (clorox) is 1/3 the strength vs. pool bleach.

AC

John Smith · Lead Tech Certified

I tried it, it didnt do anything except smell like bleach

AC Lockyer · Administrator

John Smith wrote:
I tried it, it didnt do anything except smell like bleach

Yes, you have to triple the mixology formulas which is a total waste :)

AC

Gregg Austensen · Lead Tech Certified

Was at Target today and noticed that Clorox and Target's brand are now selling "Concentrated Bleach". 8.25% for $2.99/gal (target brand). Still a bit pricey but in a pinch...

Gregg

John Smith · Lead Tech Certified

" Excuse me sir, you wouldnt happen to have 300 more of these in the back would ya?"

Gregg Austensen · Lead Tech Certified

That would make a great picture. I was paying over $6/gallon of 12.5% but worked out my storage issues and now dropped it to $2.15 and Univar makes deliveries 3 days weekly so I'm never but a day or so away from SH.

Mark Fermoyle · Lead Tech Certified

Gregg, how far away is Univar from you? Do you find that their SH is as strong as it's supposed to be? I wonder how we could know for sure. Wish there were such a thing as a litmus paper dip stick for it. Sort of like in one of those pool water test kits, but designed to tell you exactly what % strength you have when you dip it into the barrel.

Anyone know of such a tool?

Gregg Austensen · Lead Tech Certified

I ordered it from Univar out of Atlanta but it looks like it shipped from an Olin plant in AL. Given that they deliver 3x a week to my town I would assume it's on the fresh side. I have not transfered it out of the 53 gallon drums but i will this week and see how "slippery" it makes my fingers which is a good indication. They say it's 12% but the paperwork says it can range between 12-16%. It's interesting though because the drums don't have 1791 markings on it which I thought odd but it's SH.

Gregg

AC Lockyer · Administrator

Gregg,

What UNC number was on the drum?

AC

Gregg Austensen · Lead Tech Certified

It's not apparent on the drums at least not like I've seen on the smaller ones I've gotten from the cleaning supply store ..but the shipping manifest lists it as UN 1791.

Thanks AC!

On another bleach subject. Given that the residue with CH seems to be the biggest negative for people is it possible to manufacture and do you see having enough demand for a 100% CH (no additive) product line where we would no longer have the residue issue. It seems to me that if that could be achieved we could eliminate so many issues, make a complete move away from SH and drive a nail in the whole negative bleach spin.

Gregg

AC Lockyer · Administrator

CH can not be shipped on us highways over 72% However we have something new being discussed Wednesday that may be signifigant to help with residue.

AC

John Smith · Lead Tech Certified

100% ch = 12% sh, no residue :)

Mark Fermoyle · Lead Tech Certified

AC Lockyer wrote:
CH can not be shipped on us highways over 72% However we have something new being discussed Wednesday that may be signifigant to help with residue.

AC

NICE.

So where is this going to be discussed Wednesday? The Order of the Compass Rose? Can't wait to hear more about it later, once the information filters down to my level.

Gregg Austensen · Lead Tech Certified

You've got my attention! I know that we can pre-mix CH in a cone storage tank in the shop and bleed off the residue from the bottom but then we are still dealing with transport of liquid bleach and limited to 119gal on the truck. If the mix could be easily filtered to remove the reisdue or greatly reduce it that would be fantastic.

Looking forward to hearing more!!

Gregg

AC Lockyer · Administrator

Let Us Spray wrote:
AC Lockyer wrote:
CH can not be shipped on us highways over 72% However we have something new being discussed Wednesday that may be signifigant to help with residue.

AC
NICE.
So where is this going to be discussed Wednesday? The Order of the Compass Rose? Can't wait to hear more about it later, once the information filters down to my level.

Meeting of the minds at the IWCA convention.

AC

Ryan Freidline · SoftWash Systems Certified Applicator

Game day bleach bucket go boom...

John Smith · Lead Tech Certified

That looks huge. I talked to univar here. They spoke of a mini something where they come here and set up tanks. I told them i would buy drums for awhile. How many gallons does your boom bucket.

Ryan Freidline · SoftWash Systems Certified Applicator

John Smith wrote:
That looks huge. I talked to univar here. They spoke of a mini something where they come here and set up tanks. I told them i would buy drums for awhile. How many gallons does your boom bucket.

1500 to the tippy top.

John Smith · Lead Tech Certified

I hope I need one that big one day

AC Lockyer · Administrator

AC Lockyer wrote:
Let Us Spray wrote:
AC Lockyer wrote:
CH can not be shipped on us highways over 72% However we have something new being discussed Wednesday that may be signifigant to help with residue.

AC
NICE.
So where is this going to be discussed Wednesday? The Order of the Compass Rose? Can't wait to hear more about it later, once the information filters down to my level.
Meeting of the minds at the IWCA convention.
AC

Projects Lexington and Concord have been LAUNCHED!

AC

John Smith · Lead Tech Certified

That must be code for the " in the loop guys". SWEEEEET !

Dan Dykstra · Senior Member

Just got my updated price list from Haviland, this is our local chemical dealer. 55 gal drums of SH - $1.99 a gal.(109.45) 50 lbs of CH @ $1.10 a lb. (55.00)

John Smith · Lead Tech Certified

My prices are $2.25 for sh, and I paid $2.50 for ch, sounds like you got a good deal

Dan Dykstra · Senior Member

From some of the prices I have seen on this post I am getting a pretty decent deal for both SH & CH, It's a good thing I have a commercial building with a loading dock though, those are their requirements for delivery.

Dan Signor · SoftWash Systems Certified Applicator

Hey guys I was wanting to see what the price range is for sh out there. We are paying $185 for a 53 gallon drum delivered. It seems very expensive, it works out to be the same price for a tote as well. I have talked to a few different distributors and its all the same. Our sh costs are up over $50 a drum from about a year and half ago. Can we get together and get a better price on the east coast? Not sure just throwing it out there. Maybe I am in a unique area.

Brandon Vaughn · SoftWash Systems Pro Staff

The cheapest I can find in the Portland area for SH i $4/gallon! Ouch.

A place 10 minutes from me sells 68% CH by 100 lb pail for $215.

I think I'm gonna go with CH at this point... :)

John Aloisio · SoftWash Systems 5-Star Professional

I cut a deal with a local pool company and they charge me $108.00 per 55 gallon with no barrel deposits. They deliver it, unload it and stack it in my pole barn every week. It took some shopping around but that is the best I could come up with here.

Michael Derose · SoftWash Systems Certified Applicator

Hey john let me know who is doing that for you since I told you about del vel.

Zach Maynard · SoftWash Systems Certified Applicator

I went from paying over $3 a gallon no delivered to having drums delivered for $88 with no deposits. Sometimes you just have to keep looking.

John Aloisio · SoftWash Systems 5-Star Professional

Call me later and I will fill u in.

Shawn Baker · Freshmen Member

I just found a supplier here in Mooresville, NC he gave me a price of $90.27 for a 55 gal drum. He said to let anyone who is interested and needs it shipped he has some of the best shipping around (not sure about that b/c mine isn't shipped)

ALCO Soap & Supply
Mooresville nc
704-528-0123
Kreg is the guy who runs the show there.

Troy Layman · Lead Tech

Shawn, that is a pretty good price. What concentration is the SH? 10, 12.5, 15%?