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How would you interpret this WA state law?

http://www.dol.wa.gov/driverslicense/docs/cdlguide.pdf

I have a 205 gallon tank that would work great for softwash mix, but it is too big for the 119 gallon limit.

However, I think the 119 gallon limit is only for permanently mounted tanks, and this one is more portable (at least when it is empty).

Would I be pushing my luck using the 205 gallon tank?

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Doesn't matter. It's 119 gallons total capacity. If you have a 50 gallon sh and a 100 gallon mix tank you're screwed. Even 5 gallon gas tanks are counted

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Yup it counts.. No go..

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Micheal Pumphrey wrote:

Doesn't matter. It's 119 gallons total capacity. If you have a 50 gallon sh and a 100 gallon mix tank you're screwed. Even 5 gallon gas tanks are counted


Thank you, Lee and Michael.

I used that tank for a year carrying around deionized water. 

Wonder if that's ok as long as there isn't any bleach on board.

Today is a holiday, I will try to remember to call the cdl people tomorrow.

I just read the webpage again and copy/pasting it here:

"The liquid or gas does not have to be a hazardous material."

OK, my other tank is a 68 gallon, but I need it for my window cleaning DI water.

Guess I'm going to have to get a 50 gallon and work with that...

I apologize for doing all the editing of posts, and will try to be more careful in the future.

Makes the context change if somebody answers between the original post and the edited post.

 



-- Edited by Vic Irish on Monday 20th of January 2014 03:08:44 PM

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I think when its commercial it doesn't matter. This is the reason they have 119 gallon transfer tanks. If you have a 5 gallon container with you they can write you up for that. You really don't need a tank that big. We use two 50 gallon tanks and Thats it

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An average roof for me takes 15 gallons sh. Houses usually will take another 15. so Thats generally 30 gallons max per house. With 50 gallons I can do another roof

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Hi Micheal,

Who's giving you your information because it is contradictory to the information that I have? By chance did you read my post regarding this subject under "shipping papers" I posted a very lengthy reply to this question which I obtained from our trailer manufacture who got it from DOT.



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Federal laws. People tell you what they believe. You ask a dot officer 5 different times and you'll get 5 different answers. Its almost as bad as people talking about needing a cdl license for a 10k trailer. But that's a whole other conversation lol It is the TOTAL capacity of your containers

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wouldnt it be worth it to just get a hazmat endorsement on your license?

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AVOID GETTING A COMMERCIAL DRIVERS LIC AT ALL COST AND DO NOT BUILD A TRUCK THAT REQUIRES COMMERCIAL DRIVERS LISC. OR A HAZ MAT ENDORSEMENT TO OPERATE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You will never be able to afford employees that can drive the truck.

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I've done extensive research on this and I disagree with the notion that a 100 gallon sh tank and a 50 gallon separate mix tank makes for 150 gallon total capacity.

I've personally called DOT hazardous material division about this and they said that 2 separate tanks are NOT considered total capacity.

The SWS skid is compliant with the 100 gallon tank transporting SH. As long as the mix tank does not contain any hazardous material (either empty or water), it does not count toward your 119 gallon limit.

You can call them too if you'd like. (800) 467-4922

By the way, since I use CH, neither my 100 gallon tank or 50 gallon tank count. I transport 200 lbs of CH and mix on site so I never will get in trouble with the law. :)



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I've heard the law interpreted several different ways. From what I've read and my experience the container size or amount of containers does not matter. The total amount of class 8 chemicals can not exceed 1000lbs. Since sodium hypochlorite weighs 10 lbs per gallon, that allows you to transport 100 gallons. My truck stops at every weigh station and has been pulled aside and inspected several times. MSDS sheets were checked as well. I've never had an issue and was actually given an inspection sticker once passing so I wouldn't be bothered for several months.

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